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Disneyland

Last Sunday, after the Supernatural on Campus conference. I went to Disneyland (free tickets!!) with Ryan/Laura and Shayler/Dominique.

We (at least I was…) were really exhausted and drained from a whole weekend of constant ministry and little sleep. So we went with the intent to rest and have a little fun.

When we entered the park, we found ourselves in an all too familiar situation… sick people everywhere. I think in the span of 5 minutes hanging outside the park, we saw at least 10 wheelchairs/scooters/canes.

I’m not sure what the right thing to do was, because we chose to come here for the purpose of rest and enjoyment, but the compassion (and anger at the devil) inside wanted to minister to every person… but how do you take care of other people if you don’t keep yourself healthy (I think some pastors forget this)?

Needless to say, I got to a point of frustration where I just said, “Are you kidding me?? If I see another wheelchair, I’m going to do something.” Literally a split second later, I see another wheelchair about 100 feet away. It was a little girl being pushed by her mother. I went up to them to ask the mom what happened. She told me that the wheelchair was actually for her, and her daughter just wanted to sit. She said she had on-and-off knee pain so I asked if I could pray for her (hard to test). I commanded it to go and they went their way.

A few hours later, I saw an old lady pushing her husband in a wheelchair. I saw she had scoliosis because her back looked really bad. Wanting to set her free, and pissed off at the works of the devil, I asked her if I could pray for her too. I hit it once, and she said a lot of the tension and the pain left even though her posture didn’t seem to change. She was very thankful and she was surprised someone like me would even bother to do that for her. She encouraged me and told me I had a long way to go (because I’m young).

Thinking back, I don’t remember how or why her husband had all of a sudden left his wheelchair. I was speaking to her alone the whole time…

A while later, Ryan went up to a lady who was being pushed by a transvestite man. The lady had pain in her leg or something, but after Ryan commanded it to be better, she started to move it around. She said that she had pain after she got off the last roller coaster ride, but while she was moving her leg, it didn’t! Ryan told her to stand and held his hand out to help her. BOOM! He asked both of them their names and blessed them.

Immediately after, we went up to another lady who was waiting in her wheelchair. She didn’t speak English, so that didn’t help.

A while after, we walked past another wheelchair. Ryan hesitated and then said, “I have nothing to lose!” So he ran after them and ministered to them. As Ryan was running toward them, there was a lady who scootered right past him. So I went up to that lady and asked what happened. She said she had some heart/valve problems, so I commanded it to be restored. She didn’t feel anything happen, but she was very grateful.

Up until we arrived, we had planned for a Disneyland Revival Sequel. But when we got there, we had already been drained (physically and mentally). Even though we didn’t do as much we had intended, we got a great picture of the need. I was so frustrated in my spirit. We probably went past or saw at least 100 people in wheelchairs the time we were there (when we weren’t waiting in line, we couldn’t go 30 seconds without seeing a wheelchair).  This gospel has to work outside the church, all the time, or it’s not the  full gospel.

I know for a fact, that if Jesus went to Disneyland, the park would shut down because everyone would be crowding around him because every wheelchair in the park would have been empty.

The problem is, I am “re-present”-ative of Jesus on this earth. As He is, so am I (1 John 4:17). It’s no longer I who live, but Christ in me (Galatians 2:20).

So what’s the deal?!?

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Supernatural on Campus – Day 2

Saturday morning…

I walked to the conference location from my sister’s apartment (it took about 15 minutes). On the way, I got to pray for a guy who said he had issues everywhere and he needed money (he was homeless), I got rejected 3-4 times after that, and I had a word of knowledge for a crossing-guard’s knee.

Nothing really happened until lunch-time. I went to In-n-Out with some friends from UCSD. After I ordered, I was waiting outside and I saw a guy in a wheelchair across the street. I ran to the crosswalk, crossed, and then chased the guy down. He talked for a while and he said his hips were a little sore and in pain, there was a lot of tension throughout his body, and he had lost his feeling in 3 of his fingers. After hitting it once, he said he felt better, and looser. After a second and third time, all the pain and tension was gone, but his fingers were still numb (that’s not ok). The guy really loved to talk, so I had to cut him off and tell him I needed to go.

Later, we went out on outreach (UCLA had a HUGE book fair with tents all over the campus) and I led a group of 5 people. The first person talked to was a guy who had asthma, I commanded it to go, and the guy was completely healed!!  His parents were there, and they seemed a little freaked out. They said they were Christians too so I explained to them about their authority over sickness and disease. They thanked us and left.

Two of the girls in my group approached a lady in a wheelchair who had degenerated hips. They prayed for her and the lady said she felt fire/heat, but she declined to stand up and test it out.

I got rejected a few times until I saw a guy sitting in a chair. I asked if I could show him something really quick. I told him how 9 out of 10 people have 1 leg shorter than the other, told him to sit back and give me his legs. I grew out his leg and explained to him how we were just going around setting people free, demonstrating the love and power of God to people. I proceeded to tell him about the guy who just got healed of asthma, so then he said that I should pray for his son who had arthritis.

He brought his son over and he showed us how his son had limited flexibility with his right hand. We hit it about 5 times and each time, he said he could bend it further than the previous try. They had to leave but it looked about 50% better from where it started.

We decided to move elsewhere because the other outreach groups started to crowd around.

There was a lady in a scooter and I approached her and asked what happened. When I told her that we had been seeing people get healed, she said something along the lines of “I don’t need to tell you what’s wrong if you can get me out of this wheelchair.” So I commanded her body to be whole and asked her to check it out. She tried moving around and said there wasn’t any change, and then she said, “So I guess this doesn’t work all the time, does it?” This was yet another wake up call. This gospel HAS TO WORK ALL the time.

What Jesus set as the standard is what needs to happen. It is our responsibility to be able to set people free. We cannot compromise by creating a theology through our experience, or read the bible through the lens of experience.

I got rejected a few more times, shot a few more words of knowledge and missed, until I saw a who was limping. I asked what had happened and he said that parts of his legs had numbness. I commanded the numbness to return, but there wasn’t any apparent change. The guy thanked me and he left.

We kept walking and I saw a lady whose back looked really bad. I approached her and asked if she was dealing with scoliosis. She acknowledged it and she let me pray for her. After hitting it once, she said that she felt looser and there was less tension, but there was still a little pain. I commanded the pain to go and she said she felt good. Her back didn’t look as if it had completely straightened out, but she was satisfied, and hurried off.

I walked past another lady who was standing by a tent, I had a word of knowledge for her knee problems. She said they were coming and going, so I told the stuff to not come back (really hard to follow up on that kind of thing).

Then, I saw 2 guys in one of those maintenance cars. I walked up to them and said, “Which one of you has back trouble?” The guy on my left said he had it every now and then (again, hard to follow up). Meanwhile, one of the guys in my group started up a conversation with the other guy in the maintenance car…

There was a guy in one of the tents. I asked if he ever wanted to be a DJ (he said he was pursuing it), and I encouraged him (just because it’s encouraging doesn’t mean it’s a prophetic word).

We saw a tent with people handing out free Qur’an’s. I had a word of knowledge for one of the guy’s shoulder. I totally messed up by asking him if I could “pray for him”, and it led to another discussion about the Bible.

*often, instead of telling people we’re praying for them, we pull a “Todd White,” and we just say, “Hey just give me your hand,” or “here watch this.” Obviously, this is after you find out whether or not they have pain in their body. We do this mainly because most people have a preconception about what “prayer” looks like. If the person has been hurt by the religious community, sometimes they will immediately shut down and ignore what you have to say if you mention “God” or “Jesus” or “prayer.” So by just grabbing their hand and commanding healing in the body, you can skip the trouble of convincing them that they can trust you.

I got rejected/missed words a few more times until we saw a street magician doing card tricks. We knew that he had some supernatural help going on (Ryan had a confrontation with him earlier), so we wanted to see it for ourselves.  Andrew and I went up to him and he started to show us a trick. I commanded whatever spirit it was behind it to fail and whenever he tried to do a trick with me, he messed up (this was fun to watch! haha)

In the middle of one of his tricks, Andrew saw his assistant grabbing her shoulder, so Andrew just interrupted and said he could take care of the pain for her. She welcomed it, and Andrew loudly commanded the pain to go and he freaked out when he said “Jesus” (probably some demons). She didn’t want the pain, so she pointed to her other shoulder because the pain had moved. Andrew did the same thing and she manifested again. She was really appreciative, Andrew was just encouraging/loving on her and she started to tear up.

On our way back to the sessions we approached a lady with a cane who was prayed over 3 times by the other groups.

After the session (around 1am), there were some people growing legs out in the lobby. There was also a girl there who had pain in her ankle. We prayed for about 30 minutes and by the end it was about 70% better. It was really frustrating because it has been normal for us to see all kinds of pain healed after telling it to go once.

that was a loaded day…

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Supernatural on Campus – Day 1

Last night was the first night of supernatual on campus at UCLA.

Before we entered the building, I saw a guy walking away from the entrance. He was a bigger guy and it looked like he was limping. I figured he might have pain somewhere in his body, so I chased him down and asked. I explained that I pray for people and they get well, and he eventually told me had shoulder pain. I commanded the pain to go, and it took 3 hits for all the pain to completely go. By the end, he was reaching up with both arms in the air and he realized his arm was now normal.

He was a believer so I explained to him the authority he had as a believer, that if the pain started coming back, he could tell the pain to go, and could get any of his friends healed because he has authority over all sickness (Luke 10:19). Ryan was standing nearby watching/filming, and he gave the guy his card.

We went inside and started to connect with people… and before we started, Jenn (she organized the conference) gave me the mic and Ryan/Dennis/and I got to start a  mini- healing service before it all began. I don’t know who/what specifically got healed except a girl who had shoulder problems.

Brian Orme spoke, it was good and refreshing, haven’t heard someone speak the way he did (simple, with authority) in a long while.

At the end, they had a time for healing, Brian called out a word of knowledge for people with astham and right knee prblems. We prayed for a girl next to us who had asthma and later, she went up to testify that she was completely healed.

I got to pray for a girl who had back pains, after 3-4 times, all the pain had left.

We (my friend Andrew and I) spent about an hour praying for 2 girls who had scoliosis. It was quite frustrating because we weren’t seeing much change. We kept pounding it over and over and we would see very little, if any, improvement each time. By the time we left, one of them said it was about 50% better, and the other said it was 80% better.

One of the other things we’ve been going after is eyesight. We decided to upgrade from “legs”, to “eyes”. Commanded healing for ~5 peoples’ eyes, didn’t see much change.

After the session was over, we headed out to get some food. on the way to the car, i saw a guy in a wheelchair, asked him what happened and he said, “Why? Are you going to pray for me (someone had already approached him before)?”

I told them “yes.” I asked if I could pray for him and he said, “well if it’s going to make you feel better.”

I responded, “No I want you to see you walk out of this wheelchair, I want to see you set free.” I think he took my response with a surprise. He let me pray, but we didn’t see any visible change and he didn’t want to test it out.

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Understanding Sonship

This article really helped me understand the difference between a “child of God” and a “son of God.”

Link to full article: http://www.etpv.org/2008/unson.html

In this study, we must first examine the Biblical usage of two Greek words. These two words are “teknon” and “huios.” Though both are translated as “son,” in various translations, these two words are distinct.

(1) Teknon (John 1:12; 11:52; Rom. 8:16-17, 21; 9:8; Phil 2:15; I John 3:1-2, 10)

The Greeks normally used this word to speak of one who is a descendant by birth. It is in most instances translated as “children,” and often as a designation of believers in Christ. John uses it exclusively this way. Christians are declared to be children of God (John 1:12; I John 3:1-2,10), having been born into His family. This word could actually be rendered “a born-one.”

(2) Huios (Matt. 5:9; Luke 20:36; Rom. 8:14, 19; Gal. 3:26)

The Greeks normally used this word to describe a relationship brought about by the legal act of adoption. Paul’s use of the word is placed within this context (Greek word – huiothesia, meaning “the placing of sons,” used in Rom. 8:15; Gal. 4:5-7). This act of adoption was of great significance in the ancient Greek world.

In the Western world we think of adoption in terms of taking a child from one family and making it a member of another. However, the Greek or Roman father adopted as a son his own child. Birth made him a child (teknon); adoption made him a son (huios). Between the period of birth and adoption, there were stages of growth, education and discipline, until the maturity was reached for adoption into sonship. With adoption the son was recognized as one who could faithful represent the father. He had arrived at the point of maturity, where the father could entrust him with the responsibility of overseeing the family business. The son becomes the “heir” of his father’s inheritance. Birth gives one the right to the inheritance, but adoption gives one the participation in the inheritance.

R. B. Jones, Bible commentator states:

To be a son is infinitely more than to be a child, and the terms are never loosely used by the Holy Spirit. It is not a difference in relationship, but in position. Every “born again” child of God has in him the nature of His Father, and is a beloved member of His Father’s family. Adoption cannot make the child any nearer or dearer, yet it gives the child a status he did not enjoy before, a position he did not occupy. It is his recognition as an adult son, the attaining of his maturity, the seal upon his growth to maturity of mind and character. A child is one born of God; a son is one taught of God. A child has God’s nature; a son has God’s character.”

Another aspect of this Greek word, huios, that cannot be overlooked involves “likeness.” The New Testament contains the concept expressed in the proverb, “Like father, like son” (Matt. 5:45,48). It was typical Hebrew usage to employ the word “son” to express likeness. For instance, those who are peacemakers will be called God’s sons because they are like God (Matt. 5:9). God’s likeness, His image, will be “stamped” upon those who have been brought to maturity and adopted as sons (Rom. 8:29; I John 3:2-3).

Sonship and Maturity

The Bible speaks of sonship both in terms of “positional” and “experiential” truth. For example, some passages relate to the “positional” aspect of sonship, where God declares us legally to be “adopted” as sons through His sovereign election (Rom. 8:15; Gal. 3:26; 4:5-7). The “fullness” of our sonship will only be complete at the Second Advent (Rom. 8:19, 23). Nevertheless, the Scriptures do clearly indicate that there is a degree to which we are expected to enter into sonship “experientially,” in this present age ( Matt. 5:9, 45; Rom. 8:14). For instance, we are exhorted in Hebrews 6:1 to “press on to maturity” (i.e.; “sonship”), to think as mature men (I Cor. 14:20), and we are to grow up in all aspects into Him (Ephes. 4:15). All of these passages, and numerous others, call us to maturity, which is synonymous with the concept of sonship.

DeVern Fromke, in his book entitled, The Ultimate Intention, makes this comment:

“God’s idea is that of ultimate sonship. This involves, as we see, much more than being born into the family; it is rather the full attainment of responsibility which comes to those who have arrived at maturity.

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