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Africa Update #1

A few weeks ago, I left the US and arrived in South Africa with a handful of others. We arrived in Durban and drove ~2 hours away to Margate where we stayed for 2 weeks. We are now currently staying in Ramsgate (just a few km away) at a very nice place that was freely given to us by a friend until we leave for home.

Misconceptions

First of all, in order for you to have the right context, I need to tell you that what you have imagined “Africa” to be is most likely not where we are. I imagined going to the deep jungles or the desolate villages, out in the burning sun, little or no water/electricity. That is mostly untrue (at least in the area we are in).

There are a lot of areas that are just farmland or brush, but for the most part, it’s quite developed just like the US. There are gas stations everywhere, KFC is South Africa’s McDonalds, electricity and air conditioning everywhere… really, the main difference is very, very slow and expensive internet, and the people are much more available to what you have to offer.

Everything Coming Together

Dennis/Maria/I arrived in Durban earlier than the rest of the group. We didn’t have transportation/housing arranged at that point, Dennis was still making calls trying to figure it out. The day that Travis and Sue arrived, our housing was finally arranged. A friend in Margate had also taken a week off to hang out with us, so he drove us around for the first few days.

On the 4th day, a couple who lived 10 minutes away connected with us through our friend Cornel Marais on facebook. We ended up going to their house, ministered to them, and they ended up letting us use their car as we needed it, for free! We were able to use this car for the first few weeks until we sorted out our own transportation.

Around the end of the 2nd week, the guy who is the contact in South Africa for JGLM called us and ended up hooking us up with a very (very) nice villa 10 minutes away for free.

First Week

Dennis/Sue/I spoke on Sunday Morning at the church that Dennis was working with last time. We preached on Eph 1:3, you already have everything, stop trying to get more of what you already have.

During the week, a few of us spent some time in the informal settlement behind the farm we were staying at. So everyone there lives in huts/shacks made from whatever they can find, and the children get all excited when they see a white person. We just walked around from house to house telling them what we were doing and asking them if they needed healing. We saw a few miracles happen after visiting twice, but it wasn’t the most efficient use of our time.

We also spent a few days with the couple who let us borrow their car, got to minister to their cell group and spent some good time with them.

Mighty River Ministries

This is the group that Dennis was working with a lot the last time he was here. The pastor at this church has an amazing heart. The first service we were at, he prophesied over us, introduced us as the healing team. The first sunday, Dennis and I spoke (video will probably go up when we get back to the states, full hd!). Since then, we’ve invested a lot of time pouring into the youth there, discipling them, training them with the principles that we live with.

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We have a very specific idea of what discipleship looks like for us. When we say we are discipling someone, there are some specific things we eventually want to see that person walk out:

  • identity issues
  • heart issues (dealing with motives, taking offense, confrontation, communication)
  • how to have healthy relationships with other people
  • how to have healthy relationship with God
  • how to walk in power
  • how to walk in emotional freedom
  • how to take responsibility of the world around them

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    There are 2 main people that we have spent a lot of time with. Nixon and Junior (both 17). The other group we’ve been investing a lot in as well is the “godsquad” that Dennis first trained up the first time he came.

    We have failed if we have left no one here to continue what we started. If we can successfully disciple one person who solid and can continue to impact everyone around them, we have actually done what Jesus said to do… teach others to do what Jesus told us to do, and then teach them to teach others.

    We have empowered Nixon are Junior to start their own church among a very poor rural group in Massenengeh and it will be very interesting how it turns out in the next few weeks.

    Massenengeh

    We got to visit “Massenengeh” which is pretty close to what people expect “Africa” to be. Little kids running around half-clothed, following you wherever you go. Flies everywhere, chickens and dogs running around, the houses are primitive and packed closely together, about 8000 people packed in this settlement.

    Whenever we visited during the first few weeks, we just went from door to door with a few of our friends to translate, bringing healing, deliverance, hope, food, clothing, prayer to anyone and everyone. It’s been an amazing opportunity to heal the sick and bring freedom to people. Usually, people will refer us to other friends/family who are sick.

    What’s nice is that we have the opportunity to continually meet up with people and follow up with them to see how they are doing. Every single person we have prayed for and followed up with have seen results. A man who was affected by stroke who used to shake and needed help taking each step now slightly needs a cane and walks very smoothly. We saw some results the first time we prayed for him but we were told that the next morning, he was 80% better. We visit them every single time we go to Massenengeh.

    A baby that a few other members of the team had prayed for was paralyzed from the waist down. Since following up, the baby is now kicking.

    Another young child that someone prayed for had open sores. Following up just a few days after, the sores had mostly closed up.

    What’s cool is, in the context of discipleship, in the most recent visits, most of the miracles happened in the hands of people we’ve trained up like Nixon and Junior.

    That’s the main update!

    I wrote a shorter one on my tumblr

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    Thought Management 101

    “For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.”

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    The Garden of Your Heart

    When you plant a seed, it becomes a sprout, then a sapling, and then it continues to grow and mature.

    When it’s a sprout, you can probably use two fingers and pluck out the whole plant.  When it’s a sapling, you might need to get a good grip with both hands to uproot the plant.  But when the plant matures, even the strongest men can’t uproot it — the plant becomes unshakable.

    It doesn’t matter how many seeds you have planted, even if you have a million, if you don’t know how to safeguard your plants from a thief, or if you don’t even know how to recognize a thief, or if you don’t take good care of your plants, your plants will eventually wither, die or get stepped on, and uprooted.

    Whenever someone tells me, “I’m struggling to have faith”, or “I’m wrestling against thoughts of doubt”, or “The devil has been coming against my identity”, it usually comes with an undertone of hopelessness or “barely-holding-on-for-victory.”  What that tells me is that this person doesn’t know how to effectively deal with thoughts that come against what they know.

    Even before church-folks can learn to do “thought management” they have to learn “thought distinguishment“.

    Distinguishing Thoughts

    Half the reason why most have trouble managing those thoughts is because most Christians are unable to discern the thoughts in their head — how to delineate between God’s thoughts, their own thoughts, and the devil’s thoughts.

    For additional thoughts on this, go here.

    Most people aren’t even aware that not every thought that goes through their head is theirs. And even more people don’t know how to separate the different voices in their head. The inability to discern the different voices in their head is the main reason why people struggle with:

    a.) hearing God
    b.) sin, temptation, guilt, shame, condemnation
    c.) fear, worry, anxiety
    d.) doubt

    Hearing God

    If you believe that every thought that goes through your head is yours, you will think that you don’t hear God. You will struggle for years trying to learn to hear from God because you don’t know how to recognize how He already speaks. But, moment you understand that God speaks through your thoughts, you will place a much higher value on reading Scriptures because when you learn Scriptures you begin to get familiar with His voice, His demeanor, and the way He speaks (John 14:9, Hebrews 1:1-3, John 5:39).

    If you have never heard me speak, but you have read all my articles. You would immediately know who I was if you overheard me speaking on the radio or on YouTube. You would recognize the language I use, you would recogize my emphasis on identity, my emphasis on practical change, you would recognize me if I start talking about my associations like Curry Blake, Andrew Wommack, Bill Johnson/Kris Vallotton, or Ryan/Dennis

    Most people don’t know how Jesus spoke, how He treated people, how gentle He was, how fierce He was against religious systems, how compassionate He was to the lost, broken, hurting, and hopeless.

    They don’t recognize His emphasis being a son in right relationship with His Father, so you have the biggest generation of orphan mindsets all over the church. They don’t know His emphasis on grace, how He dealt with sinners and people who deserved judgment, so you have the majority of the church living under law, sin consciousness and condemning the world around them. As a result of things like these, most can’t distinguish between His voice and the voice of another (John 10:4-5). So the reality is that they already hear His voice, but don’t know how to differentiate between a friend and an enemy.

    Dealing with Sin and Temptation

    If you believe that every thought that goes through your head is yours, you will think you still have “sin in you” and that you are hopeless to constantly sin. You will struggle because you think that every thought to sin is innately originating from you. That is why people relate so well to Romans 7 (and completely ignore Rom 5,6 and 8).

    But the moment they understand that they have been given a new nature, they have been crucified with Christ, became dead (no longer responding) to sin and now alive to Christ, they will understand that the thought to sin (temptation) is not theirs, but from the devil. They will understand that temptation isn’t something innately from themselves, but something external from an enemy. So, instead of trying fighting/resisting their “own” thoughts and temptations, and feeling condemned that they would conjure such a thought, they can now actually resist the devil who tempts, instead of themselves.

    You can read more on how to overcome sin here and here.

    Dealing with Fear, Worry, Anxiety

    If you believe that every thought that goes through your head is yours, you will feel powerless to get out of fear, worry and anxiety. If you have read about the “I am a Spirit” principle, the mindset that causes people to feel bound in a specific “feeling” is also the same mindset that causes people to be bound in a specific way of thinking.

    Check out what Jesus said at the sermon on the mount:

    31Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
    34Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. - Matthew 6:31, 34

    If you think that every thought is yours, you won’t realize that you can actually choose which thoughts you want to “take”. Most people think that just because a particular thought flies across their head, they are “required” to take it and they are “required” to let any thought affect the way they see, think, feel, and make decisions.

    It is not to say that these thoughts will never come across your mind, but it is to say that you are empowered and can choose which thoughts you “take” and act upon.

    When you can make the distinction that not every single thought is yours, you will be empowered to effectively manage your thoughts. Being able to distinguish the sources of your thoughts is a necessity and vital to winning the battle in your mind.

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    Managing your Thoughts (2 Corinthians 10)

    “For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience (submission) of Christ” – 2 Corinthians 10:3-5

    How do we do this?  How do you “bring every thought captive”?  It sounds like a spiritual back-flip, but it isn’t.  This is just biblical language for the way our brains are already wired, but if you learn how to make this a tool, rather than a mental reflex, you will flourish in the Christian life.

    Here’s how our thinking works:

    Let’s say you have a friend named Dave.  You guys are best friends.  You can finish each other’s sentences, you are like minded, you have had a close friendship for over 10 years.

    If I, being a stranger, walk up to you and I start to telling you that Dave actually hates you, Dave doesn’t like you, Dave actually wants to destroy all your other relationships, Dave really has motives to destroy your reputation and integrity etc etc… what would you think?

    You would scoff.  You wouldn’t hesitate to tell me to mind my own business, or you’d instantly defend Dave and who you know him to be.  You’d be adamant to prove me wrong.  No cleverly argued point would shake you.  No well-packaged smooth talk would get you to doubt who you know Dave to be.

    Why?

    Because on the basis of your relationship with Dave and your history with him and who you know him to be, is unshakable.  You are fully convinced of Dave’s integrity and who has revealed himself to be in your relationship with him, and because of that deep trust, you are not shaken.

    Remember 2 Cor 10?  The exact same thing happened right here in our hypothetical example.  Instead of “casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God”, you cast down my arguments and every high thing that exalted itself against your knowledge of Dave.  Your brought every thought I threw at you and took it captive to the obedience of  who you knew Dave to be.

    Easy right? Of course.

    The reason why this example breaks it down so simply is because I explicitly told you that the voice of contradiction was a stranger that you did not know or trust. If you didn’t know how to distinguish those accusations whether it was from a friend, foe, or your own imagination, you would have had trouble combating the accusations. Being able to distinguish between your enemy and your friend is half the battle, but it makes the rest of the battle easy.

    Often people mistake the enemy for themselves so they get drawn in a battle against themselves instead actually fighting the right enemy. Instead of a stranger bringing accusations, they think they are the author of the doubtful thoughts. But the moment they can expose (recognize) the voice of the enemy, it is absolutely effortless to beat him just like it was effortless to defend your best friend.

    So here begs the question:  Why do so many church-folks struggle with believing God?

    Dealing with Doubt

    Lets go back to our hypothetical best friend, Dave. Only this time, he’s not your best friend, he’s just an acquaintance you met in passing a few weeks ago who you don’t know very well.

    If I, being a stranger, brought to you the same accusations and arguments, what would happen?  You’d a have a lot more trouble vigorously defending Dave.  You’d be much more susceptible to believe my lies.  You’d have trouble really believing that Dave is who you’d like him to be.  You’d have trouble putting your confidence him.  You wouldn’t be fully convinced about Dave nor his integrity.  There isn’t enough trust because you don’t have enough history with Him.

    You could keep confessing “no, Dave’s not like that”, but you would have trouble even believing your own words.  You could try to fight the arguments, but you’d know your words were empty, without any true basis.  You would not be fully convinced. You would be “shaky” on believing Dave. At some point, you might even agree with some of my arguments and say, “Yeah, maybe Dave really isn’t trust-worthy…”

    In this scenario, you’d fail to “cast down my arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against your knowledge of Dave” because you have no knowledge of Dave.  We are not prone to trust those we don’t know.

    Sound familiar?

    This is where most church-folks are at.  They struggle with believing God because they don’t actually trust Him at His Word.  They are at a place trying to convince themselves that they believe what God has said.

    They have trouble believing that God is a good Father, they don’t really believe that God is faithful to His Word, they don’t actually trust God because they don’t actually know Him.  They don’t know how to “cast down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God” because they don’t have knowledge of God.  They are “shaky” on believing God and often give in to the devil’s lies about God’s trustworthiness, just like they would have trouble believing in the “Dave” they met only 2 weeks ago.

    They are not fully convinced of God, His nature, His faithfulness, and His word to the point where they’d stand like the way they would stand with their best friend “Dave”.  See, the proof of absolute confidence is not in the positive confession, it is in the evidence of perfect peace (Isaiah 26:3).

    With your best friend Dave, you wouldn’t break a sweat to defend him. You would have no hesitation because you are fully convinced who you know Dave to be. You’d have perfect peace knowing where you stand with Dave and where Dave stands with you. The opposing voice of any stranger would have zero ability to shake your confidence in Him.

    So when I hear about Christians struggling to believe, saying that the devil is attacking them with thoughts, or circumstances are causing them to be shaken, what that tells me is that they either aren’t fully convinced about what God has said about them or their circumstance, or they just don’t know how to manage their thoughts. Otherwise, there would be no struggle, just like if Dave was their best friend, they’d have no struggle combating a stranger’s accusations and arguments.

    See, I’m not saying that the thoughts will never come, nor am I saying you’re weak in faith if you encounter those thoughts. I’m saying, being able to distinguish the thoughts and knowing how to deal with those thoughts are the deciding factors of overcoming doubt.

    In Real Life

    Take healing for example.  Say you see someone in a wheelchair and then you get thoughts like, “This person isn’t going to get healed. You didn’t see them healed last time, they probably won’t get healed this time.”  Most people immediately think, “Dang it!  I’m doubting, now they definitely won’t get healed!”

    What they fail to realize is that, that initial thought “This person isn’t going to get healed” wasn’t their thought in the first place.  That thought was the temptation to doubt, hence a thought from the enemy.  What they decide to do with that thought, if they decide to “take” that thought and act on it is what determines whether they really doubt or not.  Once it is apparent that the devil is attacking with thoughts, it becomes very easy to resist him instead of struggling to resist what you think are your own thoughts.

    Isn’t that bomb-diggity awesome?

    After you realize that those thoughts are from a stranger, you can counter it with what you know to be true. Here’s what it looks like in story-telling form:

    “This person isn’t going to get healed. You didn’t see them healed last time, they probably won’t get healed this time.”

    “Haha. Really? You don’t know Who I know. You don’t know the power He gave me. Your accusation has no basis. You don’t know my Friend and what He has said about this circumstance. Nice try.”

    “They won’t get healed. You know it. This is impossible! How can you trust your Best Friend? He’s a liar. His word isn’t good, He’s not reliable, He can’t be trusted.”

    “You. Have no idea what you’re talking about. Good day. Try harder next time. Really.”

    See how absurd it is to struggle to believe God and what He says about you, especially when you know who the stranger is and the tactics he uses to get you to waver? Those thoughts would be light-years harder to defend against if you thought that it was you!

    This looks very similar in any area of the believer’s walk. Whether it about be healing, provision, identity, etc etc. It’s when you can learn to care for each of these seeds that are sown into your life, you will see your seeds grow into mature plants that bear fruit, 30, 60, and 100-fold.

    Tending the Garden

    The deeper the roots of a plant get, the more unshakable it becomes, the more stable it becomes and the more pressure it can handle. The more convinced you are of who God is and who He is in you, the more unshakable you become in life’s circumstances. The less you are convinced, the more susceptible you are to wavering and doubt. Get convinced of what your Best Friend has said. Get convinced of Who He is in your life, and any opposing thoughts and voices will never shake you.

    If you learn to recognize and protect yourself against “birds of the air” and thieves that try to come in to steal the seeds sown into your heart and uproot your plants, you will find more fruit flourishing in the garden of your life. If you can learn to distinguish which thoughts are yours, Gods, and those of the enemy, you can easily protect yourself from thoughts of doubt/worry/temptation.

    When you learn to use this weapon of warfare, it is mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments and high things that exalt itself against the knowledge of God, and for capturing rogue thoughts.

    Go. Win. Be unshakable.


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    The Journey – In One Year

    Be sure to read my other “Journey” articles.
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    In the Beginning (Jan – March 2010)

    There were just 3. I had moved in with Ryan/Laura in their apartment in Redding for 2 months.

    We listened to the DHT and realized how much bad theology we had. With our newly-realized authority, we learned how easy it was to walk in boldness, we learned how to talk and act like sons, we learned the reality of persecution, we learned how to respond to pharisees, we realized that 9 out of 10 people had 1 leg shorter than the other and we started to do it everywhere, we learned the utmost importance of sowing good seeds because plants will reproduce after its own kind…

    Every week at Bethel’s Healing rooms we saw hundreds healed, and we realized how how important it was to actually train people to walk and stay in freedom instead of creating a supernatural drive-through with temporary satisfaction. We saw hundreds healed, and we watched people without their own momentum swing back and forth with symptoms of sickness. We learned the importance of teaching people how to fight in addition to fighting for them. We learned how to dismantle all kinds of bad tradition, we learned how to persevere to see the results we were looking for, and we learned to place a value on results rather than nitpicking on particular methods.

    A New City, A New Vision (March 2010)

    When we “rebooted” in San Jose, the team grew to 7-8. Among us, some had given up jobs, education, and some even moved away from home to kindle what we started.

    At that time, we were all about bringing the power. ”Power is the missing link… Power is what will bring the revival everyone is longing for!!!” we thought. “We’re gonna take over the whole city!”

    Within the first few weeks, we realized how sheltered we had been. We realized how much “christianese” we spoke, we realized we really had no idea how to relate to the outside world. We learned how to actually be relatable to people we were ministering to, how to talk about the Kingdom without any “over-spiritualized” terms.

    We learned how to be more diligent in follow-up. We learned how to live and give generously, we learned how to live out of our spirit instead of  feelings and emotions.

    Our influence grew as we started to minister at events, outreaches, teaching people how to bring freedom and the Kingdom as a lifestyle rather than an event. We were downtown at the clubs friday nights, we regularly visited Walmart, local malls, Santa Rosa,  and we got to go to Rhode Island and Denver.

    Growth of Influence (April – Sept 2010)

    During the first 4-5 months, we tried to incorporate ourselves into several local churches, but most of them weren’t doing anything close to what we had in mind. Most of them were concerned with their own congregation, church growth, and rarely did we encounter a church that was actively ministering to the lost and one that valued results over our qualifications/training/methods.

    Meanwhile, our group had grown, so we didn’t know anything else but to start a “house church”. I use quotes because it’s such a loose definition. So for 3-4 months, we had a weekly house church meeting that we also streamed online.

    We eventually created the same church structure that we were trying to get away from. We created the same “pastor”, “man of God”, “sermon-based” structure as in most Sunday morning churches.

    Change of Direction (Sept – Dec 2010)

    So after doing house church, we restrategized and started having “church” at a local mall. We realized we weren’t actually making significant impact on the city — our lights were covered by our house as we were fellowshipping together —  so we wanted to have our gathering in the midst of people who actually needed hope.

    It was at about this time we realized how ineffective street evangelism was (in the context of discipleship). We had done street outreach stuff for the previous 7-8 months and we had yet to see even 1 person get discipled as a direct result of street outreach. When we realized this, we had to reassess the effectiveness of what we were doing. It’s the definition of insanity to expect different results if you’re doing the same thing right?

    So we did the “mall church” for about 3 months. We were hoping to establish a reputation among the regulars at the mall by meeting up three times a week at the foodcourt of the mall. We led families to salvation, ministered healing and hope to anyone nearby, we gained a reputation among the janitor ladies for prayer and healing, and even gained favor among the security team which allowed us to promote what we were doing to all the businesses in the mall… but we didn’t see any lasting fruit.

    We saw the same miracles, lots of encounters, but no one stuck around to get involved. Even the families that enthusiastically expressed they would come every week, never showed up.

    On the bright side, we ended up creating a culture where people would actually got to know each other. Because we were in a mall setting, we had removed the sermon/worship part of our meetings, so everyone had an opportunity to invest in one another, care about, serve, and bear one another’s burdens.

    Lessons Learned (Dec 2010 – March 2011)

    From there, we decided to combine our previous attempts in establishing a community. We liked the fellowship that resulted from the mall church, and we liked the home environment. So, we started our house meetings again but made the central focus about loving one another by serving each other.

    Turns out, the Kingdom is really about helping people get healthy in their relationship with God and their relationships with people (hey, sounds like the great commandment). It’s developing relationships with each other, loving one another by actually caring about each other.

    Turns out, you really only influence people when you demonstrate that you care about them instead of having an agenda to change them. Turns out, “taking over the city” really starts with you loving your neighbor as yourself not in words, but in action (1 John 3:18), and then teaching them to do the same to those around them (Matt 28:20).

    Relationship is the foundation of discipleship and this is precisely the reason why most churches don’t create many disciples. They have relegated discipleship into a program instead of a relationship, their systems aren’t conducive to relationships, they are primarily channels of information-exchange rather than relationship-exchange.

    Coincidentally, the more relationships that happen, the more people are trained to actually love each other, or rather trained to express love to each other. Love cannot be expressed outside the context of relationship.

    State of the Ministry (Now – TBD)

    So as of now, this is how we do “church.” Sunday mornings and Tuesday evenings, we meet because we are interested and care about each other, not because there’s going to be “good worship” or a “good sermon” or because we have a “good pastor.”

    “Worship” is good because it has become a lifestyle, not because we’ve gathered to sing songs. The “sermon” is good because it’s been tailored personally as we speak with one another and help each other with what we’re struggling with or growing in. There is no more solitary “good pastor” because we’ve all learned to be pastored, and now pastor one another.

    With these core values in place, we have created an environment for everyone to grow as leaders, for everyone to grow in relationship, and for everyone to provoke one another to good works. I think we’ve discovered what being “knit together” can look like (Col 2).

    “Outreach” is more of a lifestyle rather than an event. Relationship has taken priority over short-lived influence. Longevity over the “wow” factor.

    We have by no means figured everything out, but we have learned a lot through trial and error. There are a few more tweaks we are looking to make in the future, being able to reassess and change directions has been one of the most vital factors in our growth.

    Here’s a bonus on discipleship:

    So if you would like to get discipled via skype/phone with Ryan, you can send him an email at revivalorriots@gmail.com. I will be making myself available to do this as well after I return from Africa. Dennis, Sue, a few others and I will be in South Africa for 6 weeks (April 5th – May 19th). You can read more about the trip here.

    Here’s an extra bonus on discipleship:

    In John 9, Jesus heals a man who was blind from birth. The pharisees were mad and questioned this man and his parents about who healed him and how he did it:

    25 He answered and said, “Whether He is a sinner or not I do not know. One thing I know: that though I was blind, now I see.”
    26 Then they said to him again, “What did He do to you? How did He open your eyes?
    27 He answered them, “I told you already, and you did not listen. Why do you want to hear it again? Do you also want to become His disciples?” – John 9:25-27

    A “disciple” is not synonymous to a “believer”. It is absolutely free to become a believer, but it will cost everything to be a disciple. The implication of a “disciple” is that they want to learn. When someone inquires, “How did you heal me? How did you know that? How do you know these things? Where did you learn how to do that? Why are you doing this for free?”, it means that they want to learn, and that is an open invitation for you to disciple that person.

    One of the reasons why we are seeing lots of success in discipleship is because we are giving practical answers to people’s problems. We are giving hope to the hopeless, and that is why people want to learn. People want answers, so they come. When you have answers to the world’s problems, the world will come knocking on your door.

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    The Proof is in the Paralysis

    original article here, by Mobile Intensive Prayer Unit

    This is precisely the same way I think in terms of what I believe. What I believe has no grid on my identity. You can come against my beliefs, what I do, or what I talk about, but I will never be offended because you’re not coming against “me”. I won’t be hurt if you criticize my actions or beliefs because you’d attacking things that I’m not defined by.

    My identity isn’t in my theology, or my occupation, or my ministry, or my friends. My identity is in who my Father says I am.

    This post may challenge your theology. It challenged mine.

    But we’re in a season where God is once again asking us to set aside some of our agendas and let Him show us things in His kingdom we haven’t yet considered.

    I’ve taken some heat lately for not standing against John Crowder, who is featured in today’s testimony. To be honest, I don’t know much about John. But in a recent exchange, when I didn’t join others in condemning Crowder, a few people who believe he’s a false teacher became angry with me.

    OK, it was a little worse than that. They accused me of being deceived. One of them started his own blog to proclaim the truth I wasn’t seeing. And that’s pretty much how these things go.

    One of the troubling things I’ve experienced (though it seems to happen more to my friends than to me) is the tendency of some Christians to label anyone who doesn’t agree with them as a false teacher or false prophet. Crowder is one of the biggest targets for criticism these days.

    So I went to the Holy Spirit and asked what’s going on.

    This is what I heard:
    People who reject ideas that conflict with their own, do so because their identity comes from what they hold to be true. They call themselves Christian, Calvinist, Atheist, Republican, Lutheran, etc, based on what ideas they believe to be true and to some degree what experiences they’ve had.

    For many, these labels have become their identity. Instead of taking their identity from the God, they form one based on philosophies, doctrines, morals and experiences. When confronted with a theological idea, their identity comes into question. If they affirm the idea, they allow it to become part of their identity. If they reject it, they maintain their identity.

    For these people, every discussion about God or religion challenges their identity.
    Herein lies a great problem.

    If we tie our identity to our beliefs, every time we discuss something theological, our identity is at risk. If we don’t want to change our identity every day, we must reject all experiences and teaching that doesn’t reflect our own. From this, we first reject an idea. If an individual confronts our identity often enough with “false” teaching, it’s easier to label them a false teacher and reject everything they say. This reduces the exposure of our identity to challenges.

    This is the operating mode of people who are sometimes referred to as “heresy hunters”.

    There is another group, whose identity isn’t tied to what they believe to be true. They take their identity from what God says about them. Some have heard Him say, “You are one of my prophets” or “You are my chosen vessel for leading worship”. Once God declares their identity it never comes into question again. They believe what God said and that ends the debate.

    People who take their identity from the Father can be challenged in their beliefs, because their identity isn’t at stake in theological discussions. Their beliefs are a bit more flexible and will change from time to time as experiences and revelation continually shape them.

    These people are free to disagree with one another without the need to label anyone a false teacher because they have little at stake personally in the discussion.

    Bearing these things in mind, I’d ask you to consider this rather amazing testimony from John Crowder and his friend concerning a spiritual revival at Walmart that began with the healing of a woman who was paralyzed.

    For those who aren’t familiar with what it’s like to be drunk in the spirit, that is what they’re referring to when they talk about getting whacked, juiced, drunk, etc. They haven’t been drinking alcohol. It’s the same thing the apostle Peter defended when he said, “These are not drunk as you suppose…. but this is that which was spoken of by the the prophet Joel.” (Acts 2:15-16)

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